Randomly decided to check in after years and see talk of Doordie and Amel. Lots of fun memories! Arguably my first long time character, Narwyn, ended up closely aligned with Amel as his protege.
Doordie was one of the best RP's I ever played with. His stories, with his character Amel, were amazing. Rich, deep, complex. I hope Doordie is doing well! You have a really great Uncle!
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Hi,
Is there an established version of the orc language that is used on Thain?
I did some web research on 'orcish' a few months ago trying to put something together for Greygor, and it appears there's no single language set for orcish in DnD, only versions off.
I finally put what I fount in a text file (attached) to use now and then for Greygor, but wondered if it conflicts with anything already in use.
These are the links I fount for reference, seem mostly based around Tolkiens blackspeech (I did have a couple more that discussed Blackspeech, but can't find them
lugburz I use the text file for easy referance, but its mostly from the first site, with some minor changes.
One thing, I don't know a lot about official DnD. All I do know is from the Bioware games and what I have researched online for the characters I create to play the games (never played paper DnD). So I am quite open to being told I'm well off base here.
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On my old server, a friend of mine was an active half-orc player, creating his own guild and all that. Anyway, he compiled a list of words and such in Orcish, so I'll just copy it in here. If I remember correctly, some words dialected specifically for my old server. But still, there may be some useful info in there.
Michael M. Byrd wrote ...
Nouns: Yes - Yub No - Nub Hail - Ug Goodbye - Gug'ye Thanks - Rulg Orc - Uruk Female orc - Kuruk Noble orc(tribe leader) - Nob Orc adult - Grunt Orc child - Gruntee War - Trug God - Ulu The orcish god (Wargod known as the Guardian) - Trugulu NPC orc(seen by the Stormkin as traitorous orcs) - Puluruk Treasure - Bulag Gold - Rubug Gem - Kushma Tribute - Purub Axe - Lusk Scimitar - Zult Mace - Womp Shield - Oltha Dagger - Igg Spear - Kigg Kryss - Kult Arrow - Lig Bow - Olig Axe wielding orc - Luskhu Scimitar wielding orc - Zulthu Mace wielding orc - Womphu Spear wielding orc - Kigghu Archer orc - Olighu Assassin orc - Kulthu Orc thief - Fulu Apprentice orcish mage - Mojokii Orcish mage - Mojoka Craftsman orc(maker) - Kabuhu Light - Jurzum Darkness - Burzum Fire - Ghaash Water - Brugh Earth - Abhu Wind - Yula Lord - Shakh Master - Goth Ruler - Durub Army - Rukh Magic - Dush City - Goi Voice - Mog Fool - Glob Man/woman - Shara Old person - Sharkuu Young person - Narkuu Throne, chair - Uliima Land - Uzg Trip - Zalu Mountain - Zagh Tree/forest/wood - Galu Warrior - Trughu Thief - Fulag Sailor - Ulbha Traitor - Pulagh Troll or ogre - Olug Elf - Golug Dark elf - Buurz'golug Dwarf - Gazat Duergar - Buurz'gazat Human - Ulug Tall humanoid - Puglug Small humanoid - Ruglug Pig - Buub Boar - Pugbuub Gorilla - Bugarug Follower/disciple - Gulug Evolution - Grakhug Doom - Duump Stone - Gund Tower - Lug Sky - Nuut Mortal - Matuurz Never - Narkuu Slave - Snaga Death - Magru Food - Rabu A drink - Agral World - Puguzg Prophecy - Baghu Prophet - Bagath The end of the world - Brukha
Noun plural: Put a 'z' after vowel Example: Slave - Snaga Slaves - Snagaz
Put a 'u' after consonant Example: Pig - Buub Pigs - Buubu
Adjectives: Beautiful - Luba Big - Pug Coward/something meaningless - Nubhosh Dark - Buurz Drunk - Gral Foolish/stupid - Globuurz Great/something amazing - Bubhosh Little - Rug Magical - Mojo Ring - Nazg Stinking - Pushdug Ugly - Bratug
Pronouns and miscellaneous: I/me - Ulg My/mine - Ulga You - Lat Your - Lut Him/her - Ta His/her - Tab We/us - Glu Them - Tak Their - Tuk This - Za That - Zu Than - Ol To - Ula For - Bra Are - Plu Like - Jul How - Krub From/by - Tlug Only - Tug And - Agh Of - Ogh Is - Ib All - Kag Where (Relative) - Amal Where (Interrogative) - Mal When (Relative) - Abul When (Interrogative) - Bul Acknowledgement - Dabu Above - Tala Under - Lata Front - Tulu Behind - Lutu Together - Sha Through - Thrak
Verbs: Becoming - Mag Being - Grob Believe - Klut Bring - Prakh Calling - Bugd Conquering - Throku Dying - Mat Eating - Rag Enter - Valg Gathering - Srinkh Giving - Blukh Go - Bu Having - Prugh Hiding - Fug Knowing - Urth Let - Gab Let's go - Gabbu Lie hidden - Fauth Looking - Trag Making - Kabu Mix - Nag Serving - Snug Stealing - Tabu Surrounding - Krimp Taking - Fugru Understanding - Gruk Wanting - Bagru
Verb suffixes: Present - Ug Past - Uga Future - Ub
Numbers: Zero - Zuth One - Ash Two - Dub Three - Gakh Four - Futh Five - Krak Six - Blug Seven - Udu Eight - Tukh Nine - Krith Ten - Ash'zuth Eleven - Ash'ash Twelve - Ash'dub Twenty - Dub'zuth Etc.
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I saw a lot of that list being used on the EQ RP servers between 2000 and 2003 by both Orc and Troll players.
(probably post '03, too, but I quit EQ then, so can't say)
[ Edited 07:37:55 PM 11/25/08 ]
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I model my orcs speaking orcish from a lot of the sounds in Warcraft. I don't use the exact Warcraft language, but I know some players have established what daboo and zug-zug mean.
Also, I'm curious to this... I've always played orcish as having no form of writing. "Orcish" writing would be primitive cave symbols, and not exactly something you could formulate into actual letters... more so images that tell a story. Thoughts on that?
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a quick reminder form the hekja make sure to never use languages in a way that "require" other players to know stuff to be able to paly their characters
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That list you posted (HisInfernalMajesty) looks like what I based my orclist file on, from the first link whymedia (which in turn links to shadowclan.org). Maybe its the same group. I just removed some stuff that didnt seem to match Thain and changed a couple of things.
From what I've read, after orcs first came to Faerun they gradually splintered off into to different tribes, so its likely orcish varies from land to land.
As for writing, I did find this quote "Orc, which has no alphabet of its own, uses Dwarven script on the rare occasions when someone writes something down. Orc writing turns up most frequently in graffiti". Which fits your cave painting angle Miggen, and makes sense to me.
As long as it doesn't contradict anything already in use on Thain, I'll keep on using it (and will add-in Zug-Zug ). Just wasnt sure whether there was an 'established' orcish on Thain or what other players used.
Edited PS.
For me, its just add a little flavour now and then saying pre-prepared orc lines.. For the most part I would use the trusted "((Orcish)) Say what you want in english" as I simply couldnt translate it quick enough [ Edited 11:18:39 PM 11/25/08 ]
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Hekja wrote ... a quick reminder form the hekja make sure to never use languages in a way that "require" other players to know stuff to be able to play their characters
otherwsise, agree with miggesn idea on writing
Don't get me wrong, I don't make up my own language and start actually speaking it, I type words that sound like what I envision it to sound like. (Can you envision a sound? )
Outside of the group with Zug-Zug and Daboo... lo'tar... the true meaning of Bag'norn, I wouldn't expect others to pick up on it. It's really something only played within the group.