Registered Member #23831
Joined: 7:41:36 pm GMT 04/05/14
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After I made my shifter. I went to the grey iron mines. and got killed by the hooked beek things. they were 4 levels lower then me. Me and the guy I was doing the iron mines with. went to look at the rules thing at the beginning. and saw the changes to the shifter. One can someone explain to me a little bit clearer what the changes were and how they affect me. and two can someone give me tips on how to make my shifter better.
Registered Member #198
Joined: 6:30:40 pm GMT 08/02/04
Posts: 2228
First, the whole critter HD level vs player level is to be almost entirely ignored. There are many things that have the grey listing that can two shot my epic rogue with a fairly high AC. You just always need to be ready to run and learn when to come back later with a small party.
Second: Well I am not going to be able to help with the mechanics on a shifter. Never understood them, but they are fun to stab! I mean *cough* RP with.
Moo Registered Member #1327
Joined: 2:14:55 am GMT 07/27/08
Posts: 1718
Shifters have it kinda rough until they get humanoid forms and decent gear. There's lots of ways to make your shifter better by picking certain feats and multiclassing. The easiest is probably adding one or more monk levels.
One other change we've made to shifters is adding ranged weapons to the various weapon-wielding forms. If you have any ranged weapon equipped and go drider form, you'll get a bow for example.
arrivederci, megido Registered Member #1403
Joined: 3:11:09 am GMT 02/26/09
Posts: 1864
Honestly, I've found that if you want to be good in combat on a druid/shifter, the best thing you can do is pick one of the better shapes to "focus" on and build your build around that. If you do a couple of searches on the internet, choosing the kobold shape is one of the best - you get death attack and hide in plain sight whenever you shift into it (remember to get a high intelligence for the death attack), and all you have to get is 7 shifter, leaving you 8 levels open for any other class (even druid). However, if you want to add some oomph, it's best to add a third class. Monk is an excellent one if you go with a high wisdom. Assassin is really good if you want to focus on the kobold shape.
What I usually do is get an offline module like Pretty Good Character Creator (it's in the nwnvault, just google it!) and mess around with builds. It can be fun!
I think kobold only gets sneak attack? However, thats what my shifter was, 5 druid 8 shifter 7 Assassin. IIRC more shifterlevels improves other shapes, such as the number of spikes the manticore can shoot. The assassin build is decent, but it doesn't grant you much except some nice sneak attacks/ death attacks. You got 3 attacks and not a whole lot of damage in 1v1 combat.
After having spent some time playing the asssassin shfiter, I cannot say it was as good or as fun as I had hoped it would be and thus I won't recomend it either.
5 Druid, 7 shifter 8 BG is a pretty nice combo, so is 5 druid. Should give you decent AC, extra sneak attacks, some spells you can use while shifted and 4 attacks. 10 shifter 5 Harper scout is also a cool option and gives you weaponbuffs, extra spells and basicly makes you a lvl 15 druid caster. Monk is also a great addtion lots of unarmed attacks and more ac.
I'd also recomend to take all the weapon prof. feats so that you can use whatever weapon you want.
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